bula
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Post by bula on Jun 29, 2011 0:51:25 GMT 11
Good day BEE! I was browsing arachnoboards and VL and i stumbled upon a very interesting topic. Crossbreeding, i just want to hear your stand at this topic.
Cross breeding in some mammals are frequent in the wild. i.e. donkey+horse= mule.
There are also reports of crossbreeding in snakes. i.e.
ball pythons and womas. (offsprings are commonly called "walls")
Offsprings are usually 100% infertile but still hybrids are produced.
In tarantulas, would it be good to crossbreed? has anyone ever recorded to breed successful hybrids?
Ethically, cross breeding is discouraged to prevent contamination of the normal gene pool but wouldn't it be nice to cross breed some of the most beautiful tarantulas to produce a far more complex and stunning specie? how bout a gbb x balfouri? or a KB x blondi?
Personally, i don't know what my stand is. Crossbreeding is a crime to nature but it isn't a reason to stop evolution. How bout you guys? What do you think?
Here is a video i found on you tube, M. pulchripes x F. rosea
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phinx
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Post by phinx on Jun 29, 2011 10:54:46 GMT 11
That's the most common crossbreeding that is happening in the hobby right now... rosea x pulchripes... but as far as i know, the female will just molt it out and i haven't known someone who had made a successful crossbreeding... they say that most brachypelma's are crossbreed in the wild but i haven't seen any reports of it being true... i'd like to try it myself but the fact that you will be wasting time in waiting for an egg sac if ever u will be successful which has not been proven yet... in my own opinion, id better breed it with the same species knowing that it has a very high chance of success... but lady luck has no limits... we might not know that the crossbreed that you will be doing will produce you a new specie of tarantula... your choice, your music... goodluck...=)
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Post by tubalytz77 on Jun 29, 2011 16:55:45 GMT 11
economically wise it has no value.. some say in the the brachypelma genus there have been reports of natural hybrid!  some say the b.baumgarteni is a product of natural hybrid of the emilia and boehmi or smithi i forgot what, in pokies i have read that some hybrids have sacked and produce some eggs and was good but marketing wise let just say nobody bought one..lain man dyapon ang orig! they can mate but only with there own genus..if pwede man lang sa iban our t's sa wild could have breed with each other..but for the same genus i think it is possible since they have the most closest even almost exact genetics.. cross breeding for me is also usefull if your mature female t is in premoult stage..basta same genus like what my mentor taught me (vixvy) to hasten the moulting process you let them mate..for sure if di mag take they will moult..the window of opportunity for a male and female to breed is only six months after their moult that would be your best chance of success..after that the female will most likely reject the sperm..then ma moult siya.. in his exact words "pa rape mo female mo sa iba para mag moult na xa" hehehe my take on the subject: we as hobbyist have taken an unspoken ought that we would be conservationist atleast help breed what ever sps. which may become extinct in the future so it's nice that they stay exactly the same.. |
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bula
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Post by bula on Jun 30, 2011 0:22:17 GMT 11
thanks for you insights mga sirs  if mka cross breed gd man. nami man tani noh. new ts galing amu lng na basi ma wipe out ang original strains. basi in the future nature will provide us with crossbred spp. hehe. |
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phinx
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Post by phinx on Jun 30, 2011 3:18:13 GMT 11
economically wise it has no value.. some say in the the brachypelma genus there have been reports of natural hybrid! some say the b.baumgarteni is a product of natural hybrid of the emilia and boehmi or smithi i forgot what, in pokies i have read that some hybrids have sacked and produce some eggs and was good but marketing wise let just say nobody bought one..lain man dyapon ang orig! they can mate but only with there own genus..if pwede man lang sa iban our t's sa wild could have breed with each other..but for the same genus i think it is possible since they have the most closest even almost exact genetics.. cross breeding for me is also usefull if your mature female t is in premoult stage..basta same genus like what my mentor taught me (vixvy) to hasten the moulting process you let them mate..for sure if di mag take they will moult..the window of opportunity for a male and female to breed is only six months after their moult that would be your best chance of success..after that the female will most likely reject the sperm..then ma moult siya.. in his exact words "pa rape mo female mo sa iba para mag moult na xa" hehehe my take on the subject: we as hobbyist have taken an unspoken ought that we would be conservationist atleast help breed what ever sps. which may become extinct in the future so it's nice that they stay exactly the same.. as expected from my sir...  im speechless... hehehe... but always take note that making your t grow fast or making it molt faster will lessen its lifespan. ... |
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Post by felmor on Jul 29, 2011 23:51:49 GMT 11
daw sa iban nga genus daw gamay gid man chance mag success, pero I've seen a lot of vids sa youtube nga hybrid brachypelma like sang "Mexican fantasy", product sang B. vagans X B.albopilosum(not sure kun albo gid man). my ara man specie ka brachys nga ara na sa market ta subong, forgot the specie name, pro daw ang b.baumgarteni man ato kay ang daw B. boehmei x B. smithi sya, pro hambal ka iban pag nag cross ka sang duwa nga said specie, sa 2" mo pa nga size ka offspring nila mabal-an kun b.baumgarteni gid man or just a boehmei or smithi ang nag gwa.. Para sa akon, I'd rather breed same specie than cross breeding, pro kis-a curious lang ko eh nga gusto man mag try.wahaha |
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Post by felmor on Feb 14, 2012 14:31:03 GMT 11
economically wise it has no value.. some say in the the brachypelma genus there have been reports of natural hybrid! some say the b.baumgarteni is a product of natural hybrid of the emilia and boehmi or smithi i forgot what, in pokies i have read that some hybrids have sacked and produce some eggs and was good but marketing wise let just say nobody bought one..lain man dyapon ang orig! they can mate but only with there own genus..if pwede man lang sa iban our t's sa wild could have breed with each other..but for the same genus i think it is possible since they have the most closest even almost exact genetics.. cross breeding for me is also usefull if your mature female t is in premoult stage..basta same genus like what my mentor taught me (vixvy) to hasten the moulting process you let them mate..for sure if di mag take they will moult..the window of opportunity for a male and female to breed is only six months after their moult that would be your best chance of success..after that the female will most likely reject the sperm..then ma moult siya.. in his exact words "pa rape mo female mo sa iba para mag moult na xa" hehehe my take on the subject: we as hobbyist have taken an unspoken ought that we would be conservationist atleast help breed what ever sps. which may become extinct in the future so it's nice that they stay exactly the same.. like like gd sir matt. |
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Post by Cool Man Exotics on Apr 22, 2012 13:44:05 GMT 11
L.difficilis got from breeding L.parahybana x L.klugi ?...is this true?
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Post by tubalytz77 on Apr 22, 2012 20:56:27 GMT 11
natural cross breed...sa wild nag breed then nag ok sila..but take note it was hundred of years ago not recently..thats why may ra na sila sang ila nga sps. classification..
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some say the b.baumgarteni is a product of natural hybrid of the emilia and boehmi or smithi i forgot what, in pokies i have read that some hybrids have sacked and produce some eggs and was good but marketing wise let just say nobody bought one..lain man dyapon ang orig! 
if mka cross breed gd man. nami man tani noh. new ts 
im speechless... hehehe...
